[Libre-soc-dev] #981 update

Andrey Miroshnikov andrey at technepisteme.xyz
Thu Oct 5 17:13:58 BST 2023

On 05/10/2023 16:40, Dmitry Selyutin via Libre-soc-dev wrote:
> Hi folks,
> As we discussed, I posted a brief comment summarizing works done in
> scope of #981 and #982.
> https://bugs.libre-soc.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981#c25
> As you see, despite the fact that I did a lot for #982, my budget
> there is more than humble.

Thanks for making that update Dmitry.

> That said, I have to repeat one important thought, apparently it's not
> really understood yet.
> I didn't want to bring this topic into public, but after some thoughts
> I realized silence will hurt even more.

Indeed, it has been a hard lesson for me to learn.

> I _never_ _ever_ want to hear nonsense about time or code size constraints.
> You should appreciate it if there are individuals capable of doing
> tasks fast and with a smaller amount of code.
> If you need somebody doing tasks for a longer period of time or with a
> bigger amount of code -- that's not me.

I agree with you.

> The mere fact that the discussion on this has been started shows
> little respect and deep lack of context.

I won't bring this topic up again (it tires me out as much as anyone else).

Going forwards, when working on tasks, it is critical to:
- make comment updates on the bug tracker, including links to any 
commits and documentation (*which you have been doing* thoroughly, thank 
- To ensure that the assignee makes a brief summary of the task at the 
end (*which you now have done* with comment #25), and declare that the 
budget for the work done is justified (comment #3 of the bug, and final 
confirmation comments #24, #25).

(it will be my responsibility to add this info to the documentation for 

This was a mistake in Luke not having enough information, and therefore 
panicking that suddenly a lot of money was going to be paid out, which 
(*if not properly justified*) might raise questions. The way he dealt 
with it was terrible due to the stress and fatigue.

Going forwards as I continue to learn the admin side of things, I'll 
make sure to have conversations with Luke to clarify any gaps in 

I also apologise for not understanding the scope of the work you've 
already completed at the time, and following Jacob's suggestion of 
further work (comment #5).

Now that we all understand that, yes, the *budget for the work you've 
done is justified*, there are no issues, and task can be closed, and RFP 

> You risk losing contributors or even worse, end up in a situation when
> people underperform for no good reason.
Indeed we are. Therefore, I will now be tracking the work that people do 
under the bug tracker, and making sure that they leave an explicit trail 
of updates and commits (as you have done), as well as a final 
declaration ("I have completed the work sufficient for the assigned 
budget, further work will require more planning, budget" etc.)

I really hope this is sufficient to close the issue and move on.


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