[Libre-soc-dev] OpenPOWER Summit NA 2020 I See you soon!

Cole Poirier colepoirier at gmail.com
Wed Sep 9 19:37:14 BST 2020

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:13 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, Jacob Lifshay <programmerjake at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 10:23 lkcl <luke.leighton at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > hilarious that they provide a lovely slack forum. clearly they've not
> > read
> > > the terms and conditions on that :)
> >
> >
> > I read through Slack's User terms and I didn't notice anything
> > objectionable...
> > https://slack.com/terms-of-service/user
> that'll be because it's waffly bull****.  even this looks "reasonable"
> except of course it allows them to do anything else they feel is
> "reasonable" including removing what little protection existed.
> As our business evolves, we may change these User Terms or the Acceptable
> Use Policy <https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/acceptable-use-policy>. If we make
> a material change to the User Terms or the Acceptable Use Policy
> <https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/acceptable-use-policy>, we will
> >
> >
>  no, it's the "privacy" policy that's objectionable.  notice in the
> reasonable waffly bull**** the little gem "oh but you of course also accept
> the quotes privacy quotes policy"
> https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/privacy/privacy-policy?geocode=en-gb
> *Device information*. Slack collects information about devices accessing
> the Services,
> *Location information*. We receive information from you, your Customer and
> other third-parties
> Cookie information. Slack uses cookies and similar technologies in our
> Websites and Services to help us collect Other Information. The Websites
> and Services may also include cookies and similar tracking technologies of
> third parties
> which is of course then shared with other parties:
> Corporate affiliates. Slack may share Other Information with its corporate
> affiliates, parents and/or subsidiaries.
> in other words they track you in real time including where you are, and
> sell information about what you discuss, what your IP address is, where
> your GPS location is, to the highest bidder.
> there *may* be some form of "hashing" on that however it's already been
> demonstrated that collection of enough metadata aggregated from enough
> sources makes even "hashing" of GPS and IP addresses utterly useless.

So... basically the same waffly bs as google, facebook, twitter,
apple, microsoft, amazon... et. al? I haven't read through their
individual user agreements and privacy policies but they are known by
even grandparents who barely know how to use their computers to read
their emails and check their facebooks as the trillion dollar
data-miners of our present bs age of zero consumer (or citizen)
privacy or any other rights. Something we in doing our LIBRE chip are
actively working to fix. But the whole idea of "your rights are
whatever we say they are as you 'chose' to agree to them by using our
service is draconian in the extreme. It's not just tech. The whole
current legal paradigm is beyond f'd up... gahhhh!!! I can't think
about it much or I want to bury my head in the sand. Gotta just keep
working on the chip so I can help with the good fight :)


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